Friday, March 28, 2008

The Earth Is Flat

A debate between an Iraqi "Researcher on Astronomy" and a physicist on Iraqi television. Apparently, this is an important question in the Fundamentalist Islamic well in the Fundamentalist Christian World....
We now take you to Bagdhad, Kansas......

-From the transcript-

Interviewer: Lunar and solar eclipses, sunset and sunrise, and the changing of seasons -- how would you explain all these phenomena, if the Earth is not round, as you claim?

Fadhel Al-Sa'd: The sun circles the Earth because it is smaller than the Earth, as is evident in Koranic verses.

Have you ever seen how the sun moves? I have seen the sun moving. The sun makes one move every 24 hours.

What I say is based on Koranic science. He bases his arguments on the kind of science that I reject categorically -- the modern science that they teach in schools. This science is a heretic innovation that has no confirmation in the Koran. No verse in the Koran indicates that the Earth is round or that it rotates. Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false.

Sad Ironic Question: Don't you feel that you could substitute the word, Bible for the word, Koran and the same debate could be aired in the United States and defended as freedom of religion?


steve said...

I've been reading the bible quite a lot these last few months. I've read through it a few times in the past. I love the Bible, it's so rich in metaphore and poetry and history.. and yes wisdom. I believe in a higher power and a spiritual realm to existence. Even poor Einstein was driven to fits, he fought for years the big bang origin of the universe and clung to the discounted static universe theory. It's funny how fundementalist's are so against the Big Bang Theory when it is pretty much their silver bullet of a sliver of proof for intelegent design of the cosmos. I think after I finish reading the bible this year I'm going to tackle Buddah, I don't think I'm up for the Koran yet.

microdot said...

So why bother thinking about anything? Just sit back let it all happen, don't try to understand because it's just too complicated for your fuzzy little brain.

Jeanette said...

Actually, Microdot, we all have fuzzy little brains if we think we are capable of figuring out the very beginning of time. But you keep on trying and seeing what you can do about it because it will occupy your finite mind infinitely.

steve said...

I have some organic potatoes that are starting to get eye's. I want to half or quarter them and grow them in the garden from the tubers. How close to the "eye's" can I cut to get a tuber piece to grow?

Did you see that.. I think that was one of yankee doodle's 8.

microdot said...

That's a good question, Steve.
My garden guru, Lawrence Hill does not recommend planting potato pieces.
They are prone to rot.
I always buy a type of potato called Spunta. We are still eating last years crop, but I never plant my potatoes, I always buy new seed potatoes from the coop.
I never saw Spuntas before I moved to Europe, they have a firm flesh and thin skin but not "waxy" skin.

mud_rake said...

Thin skin? I know some thin-skinned people who look like potatoes. Should I plant them or quarter them?

Mohamed said...

What a starnge guy!!!

In contrary there are verses in Qur'an which indicates that the earth is round not flat. These verses are like;

".. He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night .." 39:5

It's avaliable on the web to search these things.

In addition; Allah always tells us to contemplate and think like; "Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, .." 3:191 i.e. it's not accepted in Islam do delte your mind, but instead you have to use it.


Thanks for linking me. But please notice that my blog name is; Islam & Muslims (The truth)


microdot said...

Merci, Mohamed.
You help make my point.
We have the intelligence as humans to see the truth and it is a part of what makes us human: the quest for the truth and to unravel mysteries.

It is not our nature as a specie to remain static and accept what we are told.

When we become static we begin to perish. When we seek the truth and grow, we open the path to the future.

Anonymous said...

From Engineer of Knowledge:

Hello Mohamed,
Welcome to Microdots site. As I have traveled all over South America, Southern European Mediterranean, and of course much of the U.S., I appreciate the voice and viewpoint of others outside my country. I will be 55 on April 7, this year but I continue to educate myself at local universities. Many of my advanced electrical engineering courses are taught by Professors who are Iranian and who are also U.S. citizens. Needless to say, I do not accept the generalities and stereotypes that is sometimes gets passed off on Conservative Talk Radio and TV shows over here. It is my understanding that you have had people that came on your blog site, who have listened to the constant drone of propaganda from these Conservative Talk Radio show being quite rude. All I can say is there are smart Americans and very stupid, easily mislead, Americans who do not have as worldly view as what you will meet here on Microdots site.

I am looking forward to hearing from you in the future.